Comments on: celtic evangelism and the missional church http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/archives/2005/11/14/celtic-evangelism-and-the-missional-church/ Sat, 19 May 2012 09:25:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: kevin http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/archives/2005/11/14/celtic-evangelism-and-the-missional-church/#comment-85 kevin Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:03:52 +0000 http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/?p=50#comment-85 great topic Chris!! great topic Chris!!

]]> By: Chris http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/archives/2005/11/14/celtic-evangelism-and-the-missional-church/#comment-84 Chris Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:22:05 +0000 http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/?p=50#comment-84 John, I tend to lean towards your impression about the phrasing on the handout. "Conquering" tends to have the Roman vibe to it, though I'm sure the argument would be made that the Celtics were conquering just as the Romans, just by diffferent means. But still, I have to say that it is strong language when it comes to the concept of evangelism. I would say that Christ does the conquering, but we are merely the messengers and ambassadors to the world. I would have a hard time saying, "I conquered that guy!", after leading him in a prayer for salvation. Anyways, I'm curious about the multiplication philosophy of Providence too, now that you mention it. I really have no idea what level of importance they place their specific theologies in the birthing of a new church. I do, however, know that Providence is a church plant, of which they probably share a slightly different theology than their parent church. But at the same time, the majority of Providence's theology and philosophy was birthed from that parent church. If you think about it, a church birth would inevitably require leadership (and therefore members) of Providence to lead it, so most likely than not, the plant's leadership would be very similar in theology and philosophy as Providence. However, I know that Providence is a major player in the Acts29 network, which, of course, is an organization devoted to planting churches, and I'm almost certain that Providence's theology is very much in the minority compared to the other churches a part of Acts29. John, I tend to lean towards your impression about the phrasing on the handout. “Conquering” tends to have the Roman vibe to it, though I’m sure the argument would be made that the Celtics were conquering just as the Romans, just by diffferent means. But still, I have to say that it is strong language when it comes to the concept of evangelism. I would say that Christ does the conquering, but we are merely the messengers and ambassadors to the world. I would have a hard time saying, “I conquered that guy!”, after leading him in a prayer for salvation.

Anyways, I’m curious about the multiplication philosophy of Providence too, now that you mention it. I really have no idea what level of importance they place their specific theologies in the birthing of a new church. I do, however, know that Providence is a church plant, of which they probably share a slightly different theology than their parent church. But at the same time, the majority of Providence’s theology and philosophy was birthed from that parent church. If you think about it, a church birth would inevitably require leadership (and therefore members) of Providence to lead it, so most likely than not, the plant’s leadership would be very similar in theology and philosophy as Providence. However, I know that Providence is a major player in the Acts29 network, which, of course, is an organization devoted to planting churches, and I’m almost certain that Providence’s theology is very much in the minority compared to the other churches a part of Acts29.

]]> By: John http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/archives/2005/11/14/celtic-evangelism-and-the-missional-church/#comment-83 John Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:55:19 +0000 http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/?p=50#comment-83 for clarity sake, that fifth line should read "church's desire to see different types of churches succeed" for clarity sake, that fifth line should read “church’s desire to see different types of churches succeed”

]]> By: John http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/archives/2005/11/14/celtic-evangelism-and-the-missional-church/#comment-82 John Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:53:24 +0000 http://brewingthoughts.com/blog/?p=50#comment-82 Hey great discussion Chris. I did have a question though, I didn't understand the line in the handout "We are a conquering people" in the context of the rest of the discussion. Not to be nit-picky, but it seemed pretty out of place. I was also curious about how it will go when your church multiplies. The discussion about unity or exclusiveness and the churches desire to see different types of churches succeed given the "missional" goals, left me wondering what the "essentials" will be in starting new churches. When Providence starts its first church, what will the philosophic sine qua non be, missiology or theology? Anyway, just curious for your thoughts. Hey great discussion Chris. I did have a question though, I didn’t understand the line in the handout “We are a conquering people” in the context of the rest of the discussion. Not to be nit-picky, but it seemed pretty out of place. I was also curious about how it will go when your church multiplies. The discussion about unity or exclusiveness and the churches desire to see different types of churches succeed given the “missional” goals, left me wondering what the “essentials” will be in starting new churches. When Providence starts its first church, what will the philosophic sine qua non be, missiology or theology?
Anyway, just curious for your thoughts.

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